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		<title>By: wii repairs</title>
		<link>http://www.derivante.com/2008/08/20/running-your-own-hardware-vs-ec2-and-rightscale/comment-page-2/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>wii repairs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I thought I would post and inform you that your page layout is really messed up on the Firefox browser. Seems to work good on Internet Explorer however. Anyways keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I thought I would post and inform you that your page layout is really messed up on the Firefox browser. Seems to work good on Internet Explorer however. Anyways keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: The Who i love you</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Who i love you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The who on Youtube...&lt;/strong&gt;

They became known for energetic live concerts. They were integrated into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1990, their 1st year of eligibility. Baseing on to the New York Times, The Who have sold 100 million discs....</description>
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<p>They became known for energetic live concerts. They were integrated into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1990, their 1st year of eligibility. Baseing on to the New York Times, The Who have sold 100 million discs&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.derivante.com/2008/08/20/running-your-own-hardware-vs-ec2-and-rightscale/comment-page-2/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice work. Keep it up..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice work. Keep it up..</p>
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		<title>By: Solana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good words.</p>
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		<title>By: Running your own hardware Vs EC2 and RightScale &#8212; Part 2 &#171; Justin D. Leider&#8217;s Think Tank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Running your own hardware Vs EC2 and RightScale &#8212; Part 2 &#171; Justin D. Leider&#8217;s Think Tank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 16, 2008   This week I&#8217;ve been reminded of a very important lesson&#8230; No matter how abstracted you are from your hardware, you still inherently rely on its smooth and consistent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 16, 2008   This week I&#8217;ve been reminded of a very important lesson&#8230; No matter how abstracted you are from your hardware, you still inherently rely on its smooth and consistent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Leider</title>
		<link>http://www.derivante.com/2008/08/20/running-your-own-hardware-vs-ec2-and-rightscale/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Leider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony,

As far as my experience goes with EC2, the latency is already somewhat high. If you are concerned with the latency induced via travel across the ocean then it might make sense to look at managed hosting. Its not quite as flexible as cloud computing but still somewhat abstracts you away from the hardware.

The great thing about EC2 is it doesnt cost a lot to play around with it for a bit. I suggest you sign up for an account and see for yourself if the latency is acceptable.

- Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony,</p>
<p>As far as my experience goes with EC2, the latency is already somewhat high. If you are concerned with the latency induced via travel across the ocean then it might make sense to look at managed hosting. Its not quite as flexible as cloud computing but still somewhat abstracts you away from the hardware.</p>
<p>The great thing about EC2 is it doesnt cost a lot to play around with it for a bit. I suggest you sign up for an account and see for yourself if the latency is acceptable.</p>
<p>- Justin</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Hathuc</title>
		<link>http://www.derivante.com/2008/08/20/running-your-own-hardware-vs-ec2-and-rightscale/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Hathuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing the experience. We&#039;re considering the same path though our challenge is that our site visitors are mostly from Asia and the latency going through EC2 servers in the US are high. Any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing the experience. We&#8217;re considering the same path though our challenge is that our site visitors are mostly from Asia and the latency going through EC2 servers in the US are high. Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mullins</title>
		<link>http://www.derivante.com/2008/08/20/running-your-own-hardware-vs-ec2-and-rightscale/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,

Great post. I wanted to let you know that I referenced your post in a Cloud Computing post on my Technical Manager blog. Please continue to write about your EC2 experiences.

Thanks - Kevin Mullins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>Great post. I wanted to let you know that I referenced your post in a Cloud Computing post on my Technical Manager blog. Please continue to write about your EC2 experiences.</p>
<p>Thanks &#8211; Kevin Mullins</p>
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		<title>By: Thorsten</title>
		<link>http://www.derivante.com/2008/08/20/running-your-own-hardware-vs-ec2-and-rightscale/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin: very nice write-up. We always appreciate feedback and I&#039;m curious why you&#039;re seeing boot times in excess of 10 minutes. We&#039;ve seen that when installing lots of rubygems or when installing software from source. But otherwise it should be on the order of 4-8 minutes.
Also, suggestions on how to improve our Apache set-up would be very appreciated. We strongly believe in working on the issues our customers complain about or suggest, so this is great. Email our support and it&#039;ll get tracked on our end. Contact me anytime you have issues with our service. Cheers!
Thorsten - CTO RightScale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin: very nice write-up. We always appreciate feedback and I&#8217;m curious why you&#8217;re seeing boot times in excess of 10 minutes. We&#8217;ve seen that when installing lots of rubygems or when installing software from source. But otherwise it should be on the order of 4-8 minutes.<br />
Also, suggestions on how to improve our Apache set-up would be very appreciated. We strongly believe in working on the issues our customers complain about or suggest, so this is great. Email our support and it&#8217;ll get tracked on our end. Contact me anytime you have issues with our service. Cheers!<br />
Thorsten &#8211; CTO RightScale</p>
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		<title>By: Damon Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Also, there are many hidden costs associated with IT maintenance.&quot;

Now there&#039;s an understatement! :)

For growing web operations, the cost of finding and acquiring your own systems, storage, and network engineers alone tips the scale in favor of a cloud style solution. Not that you still won&#039;t need these types of engineers, but now you can focus them on things that add value to your business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Also, there are many hidden costs associated with IT maintenance.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s an understatement! <img src='http://www.derivante.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For growing web operations, the cost of finding and acquiring your own systems, storage, and network engineers alone tips the scale in favor of a cloud style solution. Not that you still won&#8217;t need these types of engineers, but now you can focus them on things that add value to your business.</p>
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		<title>By: Amazon&#8217;s EBS (Elastic Block Storage) &#171; Justin D. Leider&#8217;s Think Tank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amazon&#8217;s EBS (Elastic Block Storage) &#171; Justin D. Leider&#8217;s Think Tank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 21, 2008   I wrote just yesterday about running your own hardware vs. using EC2 and RightScale and one of the major issues I found with EC2 was the lack of a persistent storage medium. Well, I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.derivante.com/2008/08/20/running-your-own-hardware-vs-ec2-and-rightscale/comment-page-1/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks also from me for this write-up. It&#039;s very useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks also from me for this write-up. It&#8217;s very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Willy WarLock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willy WarLock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin; this is a great piece because it is also business oriented and talks specifically to the operational tradeoffs of rolling your own versus cloud computing.

Best of all, your story is about an actual decision and the financial freedom it gives you moving forward. Most every technical challenge can be met if only you have the money to buy the time to make it right.

From that standpoint EC2 coupled with the forthcoming Elastic Block Storage (EBS) for persistence is a radical improvement over shelling out the big bucks.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin; this is a great piece because it is also business oriented and talks specifically to the operational tradeoffs of rolling your own versus cloud computing.</p>
<p>Best of all, your story is about an actual decision and the financial freedom it gives you moving forward. Most every technical challenge can be met if only you have the money to buy the time to make it right.</p>
<p>From that standpoint EC2 coupled with the forthcoming Elastic Block Storage (EBS) for persistence is a radical improvement over shelling out the big bucks.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ramsey</title>
		<link>http://www.derivante.com/2008/08/20/running-your-own-hardware-vs-ec2-and-rightscale/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ramsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently came accross your blog and have been reading along.  I thought I would leave my first comment.  I dont know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading.  Nice blog.

Tim Ramsey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently came accross your blog and have been reading along.  I thought I would leave my first comment.  I dont know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading.  Nice blog.</p>
<p>Tim Ramsey</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Massey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Massey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice writing style. I look forward to reading more in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice writing style. I look forward to reading more in the future.</p>
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